147: Making 6-figures through freelance writing (without seeing clients), with Ana Reisdorf

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In this episode of The Dietitian Success Podcast, I sit down with Ana Reisdorf, Registered Dietitian and marketing expert. Ana and I talk about:  Episode Transcript: Welcome to the Dietitian Success Podcast. Here at Dietitian Success Center, we’re all about...

In this episode of The Dietitian Success Podcast, I sit down with Ana Reisdorf, Registered Dietitian and marketing expert. Ana and I talk about: 

  • Her journey in building a business entirely based around content and freelance writing 
  • How she’s grown the business into a multi-practitioner agency, serving clients as big as Abbott and Walgreens 
  • How RD’s can get started with freelancing, regardless of whether they want to earn money as a side hustle (on top of a 9-5 job), or as a full-time income 
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Episode Transcript:

Welcome to the Dietitian Success Podcast. Here at Dietitian Success Center, we’re all about making it easier for you to build your confidence and expertise. Whether you’re a dietitian or a dietetic student, we’ve got something for you. I’m Krista, your host and the founder of DSC. Now, are you ready to ditch the imposter syndrome and join our incredible, vibrant community?

If so, let’s jump in.  Today, I am sitting down with an authorized or a registered dietitian and founder of RWS content and strategy. You may also know Anna from her popular free Facebook group, RDs Who Write, or perhaps you’ve taken her course freelance writing for the RD. Through her business, Anna and her team of RDs provide digital marketing services to help brands increase visibility, authority, and conversions. They provide services related to freelance writing, recipe development, food, photography, and video SEO, email and newsletter campaigns, social media management, and FDA compliant, product descriptions. She’s worked with organizations like Abbott, nutrition, Walgreens, Dr. Axe, and many more. Today, Anna and I are going to chat about her journey into freelance writing and how she’s grown her content marketing business to where it is today. Plus how RDS just like you can supplement or replace their income, whether in private practice or working a nine to five job with this type of creative marketing work. And I would know I actually purchased Anna’s ebook when I first started my freelancing business for $57. And I was able to take that information that I learned. And get started with freelancing, which led me into being able to quit my job, start freelancing full-time and eventually. Evolve my business into DSE. So needless to say, And as content is awesome. All right with that let’s get into the episode

 Hey Anna, thanks so much for joining me on the podcast. I’m so happy to have you. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Yeah, and I’m pumped to chat about this topic today. This is something that I know that there’s a ton of interest in, whether it be something that dieticians are wanting to do as a side hustle on top of their nine to five.

Or wanting to actually turn this into the bulk of their business or as a component of their business. So I’m really talk, I’m really excited to talk about just the strategy and sort of your process over time in developing your freelance business. But let’s start off by going back in time a little bit.

I’d love to just understand a little bit more about your journey and what your career path has looked like as a dietician. Sure. So I became a dietician in 2007. It was I went back to school actually to be a dietician. When I graduated from college, I thought I was gonna be therapist. I got a degree in psychology and then I did a lot of things.

I was an event planner for a while in la, which was Oh, interesting. Yeah. That’s cool. Did you ever plan events for celebrities? I planted events with celebrities that were like in attendance. It was mostly bar and bat mitzvahs. Okay. Which I don’t recommend planning those. Why? ’cause they’re ’cause there’s a bunch of like 13 year olds and Yeah.

And it was like lavish ones like one of them had an elephant that they brought into the Beverly Hills hotel. This was no joke. Oh, that’s so funny. Okay, cool. Anyway I digress on that. But anyway, so I became a dietician in 2007 after going back to school for dietetics. I thought that I would do like weight loss counseling, which is actually where I started preparing people for bariatric surgery.

But I did not realize how exhausting mentally that would be. Then just like office politics and stuff like that. So I popped around a lot for a couple years to clinical, to working at the university as a teach, as a professor, to just doing things. And I was just lost for a while. And in 2012 my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer.

And I was I decided to go with her to Brazil to get her treatment. That’s where she was from. And she wanted to be near her family while she was getting her breast cancer treatment. So I went there and just like on a little, take a break from my life mission. And at that time I started talking to this other dietician online who was traveling the world, like with supporting herself and her travels as a freelance writer.

And I was like, Wait, like she was like in Australia then and she was gonna like Germany. And I’m like, really? Like I could do that. Like I don’t have to write a book or get published in like Shape Magazine. Like I don’t know how to do that, right? And she’s no, just sign up for this website and you can do it too.

And the website doesn’t exist anymore. But back in the day. They had a bunch of health professionals writing for this website called Demand Media, and the articles paid $25 each, but there was literally thousands that they needed written. So you would just go on there and pick your article and write it.

And I started writing eight articles a day. Oh, to make 200 extra bucks, which was like, All I wanted oh my gosh. Like I’m here and paper writing and this is amazing. Yeah. That’s a thousand bucks a week, so $4,000 a month. And that was like what I made up my dietician job. Yeah. Time.

You know what my take home pay was. Wow. And so it was a side hustle for a while. Ended up coming back from Brazil and having to get a job with benefits and that kind of stuff. But so I side hustled the writing for a while and then, When my son was born in twenty, twenty fifteen, I decided to make it like full-time, like I’m gonna be a writer full-time.

I told my husband I wanted to be a stay-at-home mom and then was actually wanting to be a writer. So I. Started like trying to make writing my full-time income and it took a little while to build that up. At that time was when I started the rds WHO write Facebook group, because I wanted to actually connect with other RD writers.

It was more for me that I started that group thinking like, if I build it, they will come and they will tell me what they are doing so I can do it too. Which worked but through the last, Eight years. Eight years, I’ve built a freelance writing business that is beyond my wellest imagination.

I’ve become the expert in that group through the struggles and the learning curve and all of that. And so now I have a content marketing agency and I have eight dieticians who work for me. In that agency and we create content for big supplement brands, other dieticians, health and wellness websites.

And then I also am still teaching other dieticians how to become freelance writers. So it’s like grown from just wanting to like side hustle and maybe use the income to travel the world. Yeah. To now a legit full-time business and bigger than I could have imagined. That is so cool and so did that. So I’m so curious about that demand media where you started, that sounds like it was, a goldmine if you’re willing to put in to an extent, like you’re not getting rich off of $25 articles, pretty cool that there’s a marketplace there where you can just, you know, if you have the.

The desire to write, you can just start making money. I feel like those platforms don’t really, there’s not many examples of other platforms like that. No. If that one doesn’t exist anymore. It was like, it was before the dawn of the complex ss e o and the competition between Healthline and very well health.

It was before that when all you needed to do was like produce large volumes of content. Yeah. And you could start ranking. Yeah. And so it was like back in the day when Live Strong was one of the top Oh yeah. Totally. Website. So that was that time. Interesting. So it was just a different time in the ss e o and so like their only goal was to crank out as much as they possibly could to try to get some of those spots and Right.

I wish I. There definitely are content mills that still exist. I would assume that the low bar content mills are probably at this time now being replaced by ai. But those have always been around. It’s just don’t really recommend dieticians working for one penny a word. Totally. And so how did you then get your first paid gig? That wasn’t a Demand Media article. I went on Upwork, which used to be called E Oh. Yep. And I got my first paid job with Smarty Pants, vitamins. They had just gotten started. And they paid me for, they, I got paid for a while to write for them.

And then also through Upwork, I. In touch with Dr. Ax, who is, who has a big nutrition site. When he was first starting, I was one of his very first writers before he was who he is today. So those were my first two, like real paid jobs outside of the demand media. Wow. And so I actually started on Upwork as well.

And that’s how I, even just three years ago was able to get enough business on Upwork to start bringing in a full-time income. Do you feel like that’s still the case with regards to Upwork? I think it may be a little bit saturated. Yeah. They’ve made a lot of changes I think now to be like, At the top, you have to pay them, and then you have to pay them a percentage.

I think it’s a good place to start. I don’t think it’s a good place to stay. Yeah. And so then the next sort of evolution of that, do you feel is that like just pitching yourself directly to companies, organizations, et cetera? I think it’s building the relationships that you need so that clients are coming to you.

I think it’s working on your s e o. So start, clients start coming to you, and then it’s gonna be the cold pitching and the LinkedIn outreach that you have to start doing. I want to come back to that. I’m just gonna make a note, but I still wanna talk about your business. I wanna know how has your business evolved over time?

Obviously now you have, I think you said a team of eight dieticians, correct? Which is incredible and now you do it sounds like more comprehensive, marketing services, which is really cool. So how has that changed over time? How has that evolved over time? From in the beginning it was just me as a freelance writer and honestly, I brought on the team out of personal necessity, not because I had a strategy at all behind it.

I had a second child in 2017 and we were also moving across the country. And that month that I came back from mat leave, I got like requests for 10 different projects. And I was like, I have an infant and a toddler and a cross-country move. I can’t do this. So I put out a call in that, in, in my rds who write Facebook group, and a few people responded and I paid them an embarrassingly low rate at the time.

And ’cause like I didn’t know. And they covered that whole time period of me moving here to Nashville and like everything that I needed at that time to get settled. And then my baby got really sick for a while and they just, they carried the business. And so over time it grew.

From just being a writing business to now, it was more that we gained experience as a team and started being like saying, oh, we’re working for this marketing agency who’s selling SS e o services. Like learning, like what are they doing? And why can’t we just do that too? So it was just little pieces that I put together.

Seeing what the clients were asking for and figuring out how I can make that work. So we added recipe services and food photography and video product. We just see, okay, what are people asking us for? What are they saying? What are they doing? Like, how can we be the group that’s providing that service for them?

And where would you say that most of your clients come from now? A lot from referrals. And I have enough clients in the backlog that they come and go, like some from five years ago will come back with a new project at a new company. And so it’s like relationships that I already have.

Some have come from just like ss e o finding me on my website. That’s the majority of it right now. I will say that my. We’ve been doing a lot of LinkedIn outreach this year and it’s been pretty not great. Interesting. Do you have a sense of why that might be? I think that maybe people are not going on LinkedIn as much.

Yeah. It was always like a great source for me, but I really see a change in the last nine months or so. Yeah. I feel like I’m wondering, for me too, like I, I feel like that’s the consistent theme across a lot of social media platforms. It’s just not working in the same way that they were even a year ago.

Yeah. Even I had a call with my mastermind yesterday and they said that’s the same, and maybe it’s summer too. Yeah. Its been summer and people are just like, I’m just not gonna log in or whatever. I’m not sure exactly how to get to those decision makers. ’cause that was an easy way to do it, but maybe they’re tired of people getting to them.

Yeah, true. Yeah. Too, yeah, totally. It’s true. And this is like such a, I, it’s such a great example of how. Planting seeds over time then contributes to the snowball effect of a business, right? Like these have been seeds that you’ve been planting over the last X number of years that you have all of these clients in the background, previous clients who some of them are, and now your current clients, some of them are new, some of the are people that you’ve planted seeds with over the past years.

So I just think that’s such a cool, it’s just such a cool example of how. The, these things take time and building out a full roster of clients and business. It just takes time. It does. And it’s gonna, and I can understand if you’re new It’s frustrating. Yeah. ’cause you’re just like trying to plant these seeds everywhere and not getting any traction.

Yeah. Totally. So I’m curious, have the types of clients that you are working for or working with changed over time? And I think more so I’m getting at the, like when I first started on Upwork, I. It was a lot of those like really inexpensive like cheapo projects that I was just doing for the sake of building a portfolio.

That was the intent there. But you weren’t making a lot of money. And then slowly but surely, I think you find, you know better maybe quality partnerships and quality clients. Have you found that’s been, how has that evolved for you? I think for me it was more about my confidence level.

Interesting. Yeah. And of course, like we’re known now, the team is known around the internet. My name is known around the internet, so that I think that does help. But I think that 90% of getting the higher paying work was about my personal confidence and me saying, this is our rate.

This is what we offer and not allowing people to say, oh no, I wanna pay $10 for that. And I’m like good luck. And being okay with that. Whereas when I first started, like on Upwork, I remember there was one person that like harassed me for this $15 thousand word article. And I got injured and was gonna be sitting on my couch for a week and I was like, screw it.

Like might as well sit here watching TV making 15 bucks, right? Yeah. Yeah. And they stole the article. Ugh. No. They harass me for months. Like not only did I not get 50, they stole the article and it was like they didn’t put the money in escrow and the Upwork thing, so I didn’t know. Oh know. So awful. Yeah, that’s how it worked.

And they stole the article on top of all, on top of the harassment that I got from them. Please.

That was like, at the time it was just like, like I said, I was sitting on the couch, so it was like whatever. But I just, it was really, for a long time, it was my confidence in saying, this is our rate. This is what we do and this is how we do it. And yeah. And waiting for those big clients who have the budget to pay that to come, yeah.

Totally. And what role do you feel like having a strong portfolio plays in getting those big clients? Yeah, I think that, if you really want some of the bigger brands, if you’re like the known person, obviously that helps. Yeah. But it just depends. I think it depends on the client, what they’re trying to do and what their goal is, and how many writers they need.

I think it, it does help you if you show that you’ve been at least featured in various important publications, even if you haven’t, like necessarily written for them. Yeah. Having that, those like testimonials of the, that type of clientele. Yeah. Okay. And so I wanna shift into talking a little bit about ways that rds, or some of the first steps that RDS can take if they’re wanting to start to dabble in freelance work.

So with today’s landscape, what would you say are some of those first step recommendations that you would give to somebody who’s starting from scratch? So you need to have writing samples It’s okay, where do I writing samples if found any writing jobs? LinkedIn allows you to blog on their platform directly so you can post something there.

medium.com is a website where anyone can post anything, so you could post something there. I would maybe hit up a colleague that has a blog and say, can I write a guest post for you for free? See if they’ll allow that and have them put your name on it, if they will. So that would be first step and I would try to get at least two or three of those so you can send it as a sample, because people are gonna wanna know if you can write.

The next step that I would do is make a list of people that you know, that might have writing work for you. So it can be, your friend from internship that’s now working for a supplement company. It can be, your brothers, cousins, whatever. That might have some kind of need because you’re probably gonna get your first gig from some type of contact of a person that have some relationship with.

So I would start there and then don’t be afraid to ask those people if they know anybody that might be looking for work. And then I would also consider applying for some of writers for some of the big health websites. I’ve seen recently that Healthline has been hiring a lot of new writers. Those types of websites are always putting calls out for writers. Or if you Google write for us very well health, like you may come up with a page or any like name of a website and then send some of your samples and see if they’re looking for new writers. So I feel like those are like low-hanging fruit that you can get into relatively quickly to start getting your experience as a writer.

That’s, those are such awesome tips. And so I am, and I do actually remember that from when I was doing freelance writing. I can’t remember. And good. It was well and good. I don’t know if you, I don’t know if you know that website, but I remember when I was like, I was, I think, subscribed to their email newsletters and I was surprised that they just had a link on their website, on the footer of their website that was like, Writer application form and they were just always accepting writers.

I think, I just always assumed that there was, tons of people that were applying to them to be writers. And that might not always be the case. Like it’s worth it to reach out. For sure. Some of those websites, you know well and good health, and I don’t wanna talk like smack on them because I do think that they do good job with their content, but.

Their demand for content, constant production of content is very high. Because they have to compete for that number one spot. They’re all competing with each other, so the rates are low. The demand of what you have to produce is high, but I will say it’s really good experience of working with clients, of learning how to work within content guidelines of learning about s e o and of people finding your name.

I used to write for this website called the list.com. They paid me 8 cents a word, but I got so much free stuff and contacts from writing for that website. Oh. Like brands would reach out and be like, I see your writer for the list. Do you want this free? I don’t know. Yeah. Protein bars or whatever. And I’d be like, sure.

Or other clients would find me from articles that I wrote on that website because they had a bigger reach than I did. I’m not saying that you should write for those like forever and base your career on it ’cause you’re not gonna be rich off of that. But if you need experience and visibility, I think they’re a great place to start.

So cool. And so let’s come back to this idea of. Cold pitching or LinkedIn and LinkedIn outreach? What does that, let’s start with, I guess the cold pitching idea. So let’s say that you have a brand that you really enjoy, you use a lot in your day-to-day life, and they have a blog on their website that you would be a good fit for writing for.

How do you go about reaching out? What’s the best way to do it? So you wanna find somebody, go to LinkedIn and find an, go to the brands like their brand LinkedIn page, right? So let’s take I dunno why I always think of Orgain or is Protein Shake. They produce a lot of content. So you’d go to the org page and you’d search employees and you’d find somebody that’s in preferably content marketing.

So content marketing manager, director of content marketing. Or like a marketing director or somebody that has like a word like marketing or director or something like that in their bio. Then you’d try to find that person’s email address. And so you could send them a request on LinkedIn if you wanted and like a connection request and put a little note and say, Hey.

I’m looking for writing opportunities. Do you have anything coming up? Be direct, like I don’t personally like it when people are confusing. Yeah. And I don’t really do what they want and I’m like, yeah. What are you trying to talk to me about? Yeah. I like to just be direct. Yeah. So that’s one way to communicate with them, but consider also looking for their email address.

I have found that if you go to Google and you just search. What is the email for Orain? It’ll tell you a pattern, so it’ll say, most people at Orain have first name dot last name. I’m making this up, so don’t Yeah, if it’s No, yeah, totally. Yeah. Don’t email me about it. Yeah. First name, last [email protected].

Or first initial, or they’ll tell you like what the pattern probably is and then you can guess their email based on their name. It’s not gonna work a hundred percent of the time. But you can figure it out and then send a similar message, what’s of what you want and be direct about it.

Yeah. So I will say that these people probably get 40 million cajillion emails per day. And unless you try to stand out your email, it is unlikely that you’ll get a response, especially for a big company like that one. And the response rate will be low. But the important thing is to just keep, so it’s a volume play. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And so I find that just getting, if I have to psych myself out to do it, because I do not like it. Yeah. But I set goals when I need to, like drum up some new business to do five a day, and then I get to go do something that I wanna do and not, I did my five day.

Yeah. And then be sure to follow up. Yes. Be sure to follow up. So don’t just send one email and be like, they didn’t respond. Oh no, I’m done. Send at least two follow ups after that. Yeah. That is so smart. That’s such a, it’s such a basic process. Like it’s such a simple process for find the page, find the person.

But I feel like there can be so much resistance around that. And I did the same thing and I think that was my, I think that was why I. Like my freelancing business grew was because I did the exact same thing as you. I was like so committed to consistency and I did the same. And maybe I even learned that from you was like the five, five a day, five Upwork pitches a day.

It was like, and I can’t do anything else until those five are done and then I can do whatever I want. So it’s consistency. Yeah. It’s really just keeping at that grind you Yeah. I hundreds cold emails in my life, but like I will say, Off of one cold email. I got a client that’s a marketing agency that’s been my client for almost five years.

Wow. And every month they give me between four and $8,000 worth of work for five years. Wow. Yeah. Like how is that that’s worth it to me. Oh my God. Totally. Yeah. All it takes is one email. Yep. It does. You just gotta send an email. It could be your first one. It could be your first email that you sent, or your 500 email that you sent.

Totally. And you just pulled out, but you just gotta keep at it. Exactly. So do you think it’s beneficial for dieticians to have a specific niche area when it comes to nutrition related conditions for writing purposes? Is it better for you to hone in on digestive health or whatever? I. In my personal opinion, because I work more in like the content marketing space.

If you just wanna do writing, I actually think you need a broader, you don’t need a niche, you need to be a nutrition specialist. And then you should niche into like maybe a special specialty area of writing. Interesting. I know that others disagree with me on that, but I will say that every writing coach that I’ve ever hired outside of the dietetic space says that they think that nutrition is already way too narrow.

Oh, interesting. Wow. Yeah. So they think I should go into like more healthcare or pharmaceuticals or so interesting or something like that. And focus on like the type of writing, so ss e o, email marketing, blah, blah, like that kind of stuff, rather than. Nutrition and then narrowing it even more. That’s so fascinating. But, and on the other hand, the the world is changing, right? And so I think that expertise with AI is gonna become even more important. I might change my mind about this in the future because maybe having, being the digestive health dietician or whatever is the only way to stand out against the AI produced content. I don’t know. I don’t have an answer. That’s funny that you say that because that was actually my next question was around ai. So I’m wondering if you can say more on that, just what do you mean by that? Sure. So right now AI is at its earliest stages, it’s only gonna get better and better.

I don’t, I know there’s a lot of predictions out there and a lot of things, and I’m a little bit of a doomsday kind of person. But my fear is more like the robots taking over in a different way. Yeah. With ai, but in a practical sense, I don’t know what’s gonna happen with content. SS e o.

All the stuff that we do on the internet right now, I don’t know. And if anyone tells you they know, they don’t know because nobody really knows how companies are gonna integrate the AI into their workflow, how open they’re gonna be to using it, how Google is gonna change the search with the ai. There’s things that have rolled out Already, but it’s not fully rolled out like across all platforms and everything.

So I just don’t think that anyone really knows. For us, I really was expecting there to be a lot of requests coming in for I’m gonna write all the articles with AI and you guys just edit them and put your names on them. That’s what I was expecting to start happening and we’ve only had one request so far.

I’ll say that the summer’s been a little quiet in terms of new clients, but our old clients are, our regular clients are still coming. So I do think that AI is gonna change things, and I can’t say what direction that’s gonna be, but I am hoping that with the like enormous volume of AI generated content, That putting your name on something as a licensed professional is gonna matter even more.

I’m hopeful that will be the change that Google makes so that no one will be able to compete in the health and wellness space without a real dietician’s name on it. Have you been considered like maybe creating like a little logo that I can sell with my articles that say, created by a real human, something totally written by a.

I don’t know. Yeah, I don’t know. That’s just something I’ve thought about like how can we differentiate our content from the content that is for now adequate, but is only gonna get better. Yeah, totally. Oh yeah, I agree. I actually two, pub two or I guess it depends on when this podcast comes out, but I think it’s episode 1 42 that I did a couple weeks ago.

I was talking about AI and just some of my observations and, ’cause we’ve been experimenting with chat G P T particularly a lot. And I think what’s interesting is you start to see there was, I think a lot of I don’t know if it’s fear, but more ooh, at the beginning with me trying to, just thinking oh my gosh, is this gonna replace the content that we’re already creating right now?

And then you go to actually use it and you start to learn how to use it properly. And you see that, and I agree it’s gonna change and it’s gonna evolve and it’s gonna become better. But at this point, There’s still a pretty big discrepancy between what ai, what chat g p t will create and what you as a dietician would create, just in terms of referenced content, all of those different components.

There’s a lot of there’s gaps for sure. It’s not the same caliber, so for now, still feels like there’s, yeah, there’s definitely that disconnect, but I agree it, it’s gonna, it’s gonna get better. For and I will say like a couple of our clients had assigned something saying we wouldn’t use AI at all for their content, which I mean is fine.

But I think that’s a good sign and I just. I don’t think it’s gonna roll out and replace everybody as quickly as the thing. There’s too many like legal things and Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Details that need to be figured out. But I will say that for my own personal stuff, I have been using it pretty heavily.

Yeah. And I find it saves me a lot of time, been very productive with my own blog. Yeah. And it’s, I don’t know, because I know what I need to add. Yeah, and I think again, once you start to play around with it and really realize how to use it effectively ’cause that’s what they say, right?

Is that learning how to design a prompt is. The biggest part of the experience. And what you put into it, you’ll get out of it. We’ve found that it’s been so useful for generating examples of things, if we have to come up with lists of examples or whatever. It’s so helpful in that respect because that’s something that takes some time for you to try and come up with, and it’s I can come up with these, but it’s gonna take me 20 minutes versus if I know how to ask chat g p t for it, that’s a lot easier.

Which is really cool. Yeah. Yeah. So definitely a lot of pros, a lot of things. Yeah. There are, there’s a lot of things that we, I use it to start an email sequence for myself. So I’m like, I wanna. Sell this product. Yeah. Make it funny. And sometimes it’s funnier than I could be. I’m like, yeah.

You’re like, oh, well done. Okay. Can you tell us a little bit about your two freelance writing for dietician products that you have? So I have a. Guide to freelance writing, which is just a ebook type of thing where you, it’s just a get starting guide. It’s actually just been updated for 2023.

So that’s if you’re not sure you wanna dabble, what is it about, get some ideas of where to get started. And then course for dieticians to get started with freelance writing. And so that’s called Freelance Writing for the rd. And that’s a six module course. It used to be six weeks, but now I.

I give it to you a little bit sooner. And it goes through in detail what to say to clients, how to optimize your LinkedIn so clients reach out to you. How to do better on work when you’re reaching out to potential job postings. How to get clients to start finding you, how to price your writing, legal issues, like basically everything you need to know that couldn’t really be covered in a little, 20 page ebook.

It also comes with support from me and a Facebook group and that kind of stuff. So that’s a little bit more in depth for people who are really ready to get moving on. The freelance writing. Awesome. Amazing. And are those available at all times throughout the year or do you do Open Close?

The guide is available all the time. So if you join the Facebook group, RD two write you’ll get a welcome email and it’ll tell you to buy the guide. And then the freelance writing course is like open, close right now. Yeah. It will be opening again mid-September. So that will be the final sale of it for this year.

Perfect. Awesome. We will link to that in the description of this episode, and I purchased your ebook way back when started with the ebook. And got so much value out of that ebook that I was able to get started with freelancing. And I’m like, why did I not buy the course? The course would’ve given me everything that I needed, but it was at the time where I was like, when you’re first starting your business and you’re like, ah, I don’t know how to spend money appropriately.

And so I, if I had, if I were to go back in time, I would totally get the course. I think it’s incredible and so comprehensive, so highly recommend. Thank you. Thank you. I’ve helped so many dieticians, like now I see some of them that are my students and I’m like, yeah, wow. Like you took that, just ran with it.

My goodness. Yeah. That’s so cool. I wanna take credit for it. Of course. Oh yeah. You can take, you can definitely take part credit for it. For sure. For sure. That’s awesome. Thank you so much for chatting today. It was so good to talk to you and so much value came out of this episode. So where can the audience find out more about you and the work that you do?

Sure, so anna r dorf.com is the website for my agency and then any, the courses are on there as well. And then the rds who Write Facebook group is a great place to come and learn from other RD writers. You can follow me also on Instagram, on nutrition underscore writers, so always happy to connect, answer questions, just reach out.

Awesome. Cool. Thanks so much, Anna. No problem. Have a great day.

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